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Wednesday, 23 June 2010

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Beautifully said Rabbi. We have no room for any kind of discrimination between ourselves. If there's one thing that you can learn from a Ger, its that in coming from the outside, we get a unique view of unity automatically. We are all Jews, sparks of light that are part of the Holy One. Anyone who doesn't view things this way is depriving him/herself of a gift given by Hashem.

With blessings and honor:

Unity?! If the vision of Am Yisrael cannot include even the blackest most insular point of the Yiddish-speaking ghetto, then something is very very wrong. The truth is, there is actually something there worth protecting and perpetuating. What a tragic loss for the entire Jewish people if this pure point is lost. "Equality and tolerance" has a darker side when expressed incorrectly.

I am deeply disheartened to read here that this is simply an ashkenazi-sephardi issue. We are like Yosef HaTzaddik's multi-colored coat. That diversity is precisely the "yofi" of Am Yisrael. Oy vavoy if we eagerly snuff out our inherent distinctive qualities in the name of one homogenized religious "culture." For any ger or baal teshuva (like myself), it is easier to take from every tradition and even idealize this as a supreme value. Those who were born within a strong religious tradition reaching back thru generations of unfathomable exile should not be threatened and forced to simply homogenize it out of existence within one generation--by their own brethren!!!

To enroll a child in any school is to agree to its rules. Anyone who has sent sons or daughters through a haredi school system is well aware that each school has its "takanon"- its code of standards, including dress, basic Torah observance (i.e., no smoking on Shabbat) and general modesty of the home (i.e., no TV). If this is too difficult or parents are unwilling to hold themselves and their child to this, why would you want to force yourself into a place that is clearly not suitable for you or your child?! And drag the child through one confrontation after another within this Torah system, teaching him to blindly trample on the words of Torah sages... What type of example is that to kids who already need help?

On the most objective note, for a court (in Israel!) to force the parents to send their child to an institution that has been stripped of its ability to enforce their basic code of standards, and then imprison them in the manner we are witnessing, is fundamentally wrong.

I see much hate. but so far it is coming predominantly from one direction and it aint from the ghetto side... But don't confuse me with the facts that bring me out of my comfort zone.

With blessings to you, Rav Arush, shlita, and all who work on behalf of Am Yisrael.

More beautiful positivity from Rabbi Lazer. Thanks for doing what you do.

Rav Lazer HaShem bless & guard you & Rav Shalom;
All beautifully said. Permit me to make a point regarding your urging the plaintiff to get the case out of civil court and solve it through mandatory Halakhik arbitration in the very best rabbinical court. The plaintiff did indeed take it to a qualified Rabbinical court, one that is known for its nondiscriminatory stance. One that is known to not give preference to any eidah or skin color etc. The defendants refused to appear before that Rabbinical tribunal without requesting change of venue as is required by halakha if one is not satisfied with the court chosen by the palintiff. They just outright refused. This is called "Siruv Beit Din" (refusal to abide to the Beit Din). That is why the Beit Din gave the right to the plaintiff to go to civil court. The suggestion made, in the shiur, to ask Rav Ovadia Yosef to sit with a major Ashkenazi posek was considered already & Rav Ovadia's response was A] that he knew neither of them would agree; B] He knew that if he would get involved it would become an even bigger "journalists picnic heyday" & be construed as a political game. He did comment though that attempts should be made to keep the matter in Rabbinical courts as much as possible. The "supreme court" went overboard & beyond its legal rights in the way it handled the case. After the very unpleasant & regretful jailing of fathers & a few mothers, the defendants asked for return to rabbinical court but refused the plaintiffs (halakhikaly correct) condition that they sign a paper stating they will abide by the Rabbinical courts ruling.

As for "me.yahoo"'s statement that he sees a lot of hate from the non-ghetto side, young man you didn't see what happened before it hit the news & what is going on behind the scenes. You've never been physically thrown out of a "tish" because you wear an all white Talit instead of one with black stripes, you've never had windows of your home shattered with rocks because your wife covers her hair with cloth headkerchief (fully covered) instead of a fancy flowing perfumed human hair wig, you've never been threatened with being beaten by the gabai of a Beit Kneset for saying kadish in a Sfaradi nosahh instead of Ashkenazi (I have).

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