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Are Christians and Moslems idolators according to Judaism? Do we pray for our non-Jewish friends? Here's my 5-minute answer:
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G-d bless israel. rabbi. thank you for an inspiring lesson. also in your daily shemoneh esri prayers, jews in their magnanimity pray for the non jews of the world.
xtians and muslims dont believe in rebirth . each believes that belief in particular saves them. but hindus and buddhists believe in rebirth. hindus believe that if you lead an unworthy life in this world, your soul will be reborn as anything but human. and so on the rebirths until one reaches a level that he can go to the other world. whether the wicked get many opportunities, i dont know that much of the religon except what i have picked up on practises seen here.hindus dont proselyte, and mostly are vegetarians. ocourse we see much misbehaviour in some but that does not show the rules of the either faith, since buddhism is an offshoot of hinduism.
many hindus ( i wish my husband was in that list) dont keep pictures of statues. they are slowly doing away with it. during festivals two cows specially kept will pull a chariot carrying their deity. and there are other similarities. i have read some say hindus are from ketura's children. since Hashem said israel is a light to all nations, then it should be also that israel prays for all the nations and creations since we were all created for israel's sake. just my humble view.
Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:30 PM
With all due respect, I have to disagree with the statement that Christians aren't idolators and they believe in one G-d. Having come out of the church, I can attest to the fact that ALL worship in a modern-day Evangelical church is directed to Jesus, a man, and only to him. All prayers, all worship, all service is to him, not to the One G-d. There are no prayers to the Father, only to J-man. How can this not be idolatry?
Best regards, Emunah
Emunah Murray |
Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 05:42 PM
To Quote "TorasMosheEmess"
"Various gedolei hador have ruled that christianity is avodah zarah. In 1964, Rav Soleveichik zt"l ruled that, despite Vatican II, it was still forbidden to teach Torah to christians. He further forbade teaching them how to learn Torah or even to teach them lashon hakodesh. As it is prohibitted to teach idolators Torah, This can only mean that he considered them ovdei avodah zara: there is no other reasonable explanation.
Rav Moshe Feinstein zt"l ruled at least twice that christians were idolators: he ruled that if one is in the middle of a shiur and a christian walks in, even though it is forbidden to teach them Torah, it is not neccessary to interrupt the shiur. As above, the only reason it would be forbidden to teach christians Torah would be if they were idolators; he also wrote a teshuva to a shailah whether it was permitted to teach a class to a group of reform children (since some of them would obviously be gentiles) that it was permitted because since those children attended a reform "temple" it was unlikely that they were idolators and that the need to teach Jewish children the Emess outweighed the (in this case) unlikely violation of the prohibition against teaching idolators. I can't imagine that Reb Moshe was concerned about an Indianapolis "temple" being overrun by, say, buddhist or hindu children. Clearly he considered christians to be ovdei avodah zara.
More recently, within the past few years, Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Eliyashiv zt"l has ruled on at least two seperate occasions, in very clear language, that christianity is avodah zara: A Jew planning a trip to Israel was asked by a christain bussiness associate if he would pray for him in Jeruslam. He wrote a shailah to Rav Eliyashiv to ask if this was permitted. Rav Eliyashiv responded with one sentence: it is prohibited to pray for an idolator. He also ruled that it was forbidden for Mosdos to accept money from the "International Fellowship of christians and Jews" (an organization almost entirely funded by christian churches) under the prohibition of acceptingtzedaka from idolators"
Regarding Theresa's comment above, Judaism does accept reincarnation/gilgul haneshamot as correct -- see
Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 07:44 PM
What Can You Say to Missionaries?
by Gutman Locks
A group of nice, young, non Jewish American College students came up to me at the Kotel tefillin stand yesterday. When I asked them what they were doing in Israel, they told me that they were students at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. This is a well known bible college whose objective is “to train students to completely and effectively proclaim the gospel of j.c.” (yashka)
I hope all of their students are as ineffective as these boys.
“Can I ask you a question?” an oriental looking boy asked.
He had his x-ian “bible” open and pointing to the page asked, “Who is the suffering servant the prophet Isaiah talks about in chapter 53?”
“I am so surprised that you are asking that question. Someone is lying to you!”
“Why!? It says it right here, see?” He had his finger on the line of his book.
“Someone is tricking you and you are really falling for it. They are trying to get you to believe their myth, so they told you that the Prophet was referring to your man, but he wasn’t. Isaiah already called that servant by name, in Chapter 44, and a few other places. So why should you even be asking such a question?”
A few of them quickly turned to chapter 44 and read, “…O Jacob My servant, and Israel…”
One of them tried to argue that it couldn’t Jacob. “Then go argue with G-d and His Prophet, He’s the one who gave His servant that title.”
I tried to explain how the Jewish people are all considered to be one and that since our exile 2,000 years ago we have been fulfilling the role of the “Suffering Servant”, but they didn’t believe me.
“Look, yesterday I had some buddhists here arguing that their statue was a god. They really believe that story that someone told them. They didn’t see anything, and the guy who told them that story didn’t see anything. It’s the same with you. You never saw anything, and the people who are trying to convince you of this story didn’t see anything. It’s all just belief. Why should your belief be any better than theirs? Why should your story about your gods be any more reliable than theirs? No one saw anything!”
One of the boys quickly “corrected” me, holding up three fingers, !!***“god is three.***!!”
I loudly said, “‘Hear O’ Israel the L-rd our G-d the L-rd is ONE.’ G-d is One, not three!”
Another boy jumped in and said, “But what do you do for forgiveness now that you do not have sacrifices? Who died for your sins?”
“The Bible says, ‘the father will not die for the son’s sins, and the son will not die for the father’s sin. It says it clearly, and still you think that your man died for your sins!”
“Is G-d infinite?” I asked.
They reluctantly agreed.
“Was yashka in the grave on the fourth day?”
“No, he was resurrected,” they said with pride.
“If he isn’t in the grave, he’s not everywhere. Don’t worship him. King David wrote that G-d is even in hell. Only worship the G-d Who is everywhere.”
“Where’s it say that G-d is in hell?” one of them insisted.
“Psalms 139,” I told him.
He quickly looked it up and told the other boys that it does say that.
“Just worship the Infinite G-d, and not a limited man and you will be alright. Study the 7 Commandments of Noah. If you keep them you will have wonderful lives in this world and in the Next.” I gave them each a handout about the 7 Mitzvahs.
I really tried to help them, but most of them saw me as the enemy of their god. Maybe I got to one or two of them.
I gave them my website address and they walked away looking like they failed…well, they did fail in spreading that foolishness at the Kotel, but I wonder how many Americans they meet do fall for that myth?
Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 10:36 PM
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